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  Engardio's Article about Jw's in USA Today....

  by AK - Jeff in

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  http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/2007-05-06-opledereligion_n.htm?csp=34.

  i agree with most of the 'benefits' he describes from the religion - particularly the civil liberties they have gained in the us.

  story is one-sided, but ok.. by joel p. engardioplease excuse me if i ever disrupted your laundry, yard work or nap by knocking on your door.

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  Oh Dear! Oh Dear! That's a bit like praising the Natzis party for their right to march through the streets of Germany in the thirties, distributing hate everywhere they went, and telling everyone that they and only they have the right answers.They say they are theocratic when we all know it's a dictatorship.

  Do you think for one minute that if the JWs' were ever in power (as if )that they would allow any other voice to be heard. The latest rumour I heard was that the dead annointed are going to come back at armageddon and help invisibly with the slaying.Correct me if I'm wrong; Can it be right for them to win rights which would be denied to their opposers.

  It's one thing to have healthy debate but to go around saying, if you don't enter our ark you are dead meat and so are your toddlers and babies if you do not join us. This is in effect what they preach from door to door.

  Edmond.
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  FASCINATED BY THE REALITIES YOU'VE SEEN HERE...BUT TERRIFIED TO POST?

  by nvrgnbk in

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  not to worry brothers and sisters, we've all been there.

  many of us were trembling when we first happened upon this site.

  one new poster, calls herself snowbird, just revealed that she's been lurking(reading without posting) here for 7 years!.

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  Hi ninja,

  Just in case I survive .What is the best way of getting through Glasgow with a caravan.Do I head for the Erskine bridge or carry on up towards Cumbernaud ? I will be heading towards Balmaha and Loch lomond's eastern shore.

  Thanks Eddy.
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  FASCINATED BY THE REALITIES YOU'VE SEEN HERE...BUT TERRIFIED TO POST?

  by nvrgnbk in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  not to worry brothers and sisters, we've all been there.

  many of us were trembling when we first happened upon this site.

  one new poster, calls herself snowbird, just revealed that she's been lurking(reading without posting) here for 7 years!.

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  edmond dantes

  Thanks ninja I'm still here but I have posted my funeral song on another thread just in case !!!!!!!!

  Steady Eddy.
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  what song do you want played at your funeral?

  by ninja in

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  what funny song do you want played at your funeral?......what about ..."burn baby burn....disco inferno"...or...."living in a box"...more please

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  It was only a neighborhood dance that's all that it was but oh what it seemed to be.

  It was like a masquarade ball with costumes and all

  because you were at that dance with me.

  It was just a ride on a ride on a train that's all that it was but oh what it seemed to be,

  because you were on that train with me

  It was only a wedding in june but oh what it seemed to be.

  It was like a royal affair with everyone there

  because you said yes I do to me.

  And when you kissed me darling it was more than just a thrill for me.

  It was a promise darling of things that fate had willed for me

  Sung by Frank Sinatra
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  FASCINATED BY THE REALITIES YOU'VE SEEN HERE...BUT TERRIFIED TO POST?

  by nvrgnbk in

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  not to worry brothers and sisters, we've all been there.

  many of us were trembling when we first happened upon this site.

  one new poster, calls herself snowbird, just revealed that she's been lurking(reading without posting) here for 7 years!.

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  edmond dantes

  Sometimes I think the monitor is going to be hit by a thunder bolt when I'm in the middle of of ###################### ########## writi ################

  Edmond's alight.
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  Time to make my thoughts known......

  by R.F. in

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  2. bible

  i have lurked around here for a little while and i've finally seen the need to post.

  i'm 22 years old and a ministerial servant and pioneer in my congregation.

  i'm not really here to knock the organization, but i must admit that there are some things(ex.

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  Hi R.F.

  Welcome,welcome,a thousand times welcome.If we were in the same room we would shake you by the hand and give you a big hug and tell you that everyone is here to help you with what ever question you have.There are a lot of friends here who I am sure can answer your questions better than I can but for what it's worth, I walked away from the lie over forty years ago when I was about your age and guess what , never regreted it once.Don't spend your life following a false hope of mumbo jumbo or one day when the scales fall from your eyes you may say "my God what have I believed in all these years that as caused me so much misery."Instead of thanking him for a deliverance from false promises and lies and giving you what you were meant for in the first place your heart will be full of regret.

  It is only when you have put distance between yourself and the borg that you realise just how foolish it all is.

  Best wishes Edmond.
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  What did you think of "new light"?

  by reneeisorym in

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  you kind of get to a point where you know all the answers when you are a jw.

  you don't really have to research much more because its the same stuff they present over and over again.

  "jehovah's reminders" but i kind of looked forward to new light.

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  Hi there,

  So glad you brought this up.

  Before I became the The Count of Monte Cristo I lived in a deep ,deep,very deep and dark dungeon it was full of smoke and mirrors.I was kept in my prison cell by the keepers of the watchtower . They kept feeding me and because it was they who kept me in prison naturally I had to digest what they gave me.Why was I kept chained in the dark? Answer, because of lies.Somebody kept telling very big lies ,various lies ,some of which which were similar to the lies told to the king in the story of the emperor's new clothes some lies were meant to be very frightning but were only as scary as the man behind the screen inThe Wizard of OZ. Some lies told me that I was going to die some lies told me I was going to live.However the truth was more scary when at that point I realised that if I carried on with this mumbo jumbo I would go completely insane and might end up thinking I was a French man locked up on an island near Marsielles.

  And so to cut a long story short I made a very fortunate escape because something helped me see my way out through the smoke and mirrors and I fled to freedom.It was then in clean,beautiful,fresh and gleaming light that I realized a real truth which is ,if there is such a thing as present truth then there must be past truth and future truth -which is a stupid argument .If something is true in the past then it must always be the truth now and forever more .Or else it wasn't true in the first place which accounts for most of the watchtower teachings.Are you following me so far?

  Edmond Dantes who in truth is the Count of Monte Cristo
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  MOST WANTED WATCHTOWER LEADERS NOTICE

  by Dogpatch in

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  most wanted watchtower leaders*.

  for crimes against humanity.

  ted jarasz.

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  These guys are members of the Religious Mafia - or Mob members to use another suitable title ,and they don't have no concience.You can just hear them saying." We want to make you an offer you can't refuse ,believe us ,or your all gonna die if you don't come and work for us for nuttin' pretty soon."
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  HAVE SOME FUN WITH THE MAY 2007 AWAKE!

  by Mary in

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  ok, here's the original:.

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  and here's a blank canvas for you: .

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  "I think I shall go down to the Salvation Army, those JW's at the table must have sold the rest of their buildings."
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  The "Truth" Hurts

  by Cold Creek Swimmer in

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  it is finally out there.

  my dad has finally faced it.

  he screamed that i am "apostate".

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  Hi cold creek,

  Sorry to read about the run in with your folks.I'ts so sad when you think that christianity is supposed to be a loving religion unfortunatley the way the witnesses practice it, just the opposite results ensue.By coincidence the song Born Free is playing in the back ground and the words are so applicable - Born free to follow your heart,live free and beauty surounds you.The world still astounds you each time you look at a star.Stay free where no walls divide you, your'e free as the roaring tide so there's no need to hide.Born free and life is worth living but only worth living 'cause your'e born free.

  Just a thought which might help the situation.If you keep in mind that one day your folks might wake up one day and realize that they have made a terrible mistake.So that you don't end up arguing each time you meet write down on a piece of paper three or four basic questions such as ' if Adam was perfect ,even though he had free will, why did he make an imperfect decision? and If the wachtower preached something as the truth, how can it, now not be the truth, because the truth is always the truth or else it wasn't the truth in the first place? Why did Rutherford build Beth Sarim and buy two cadillacs was he right or wrong? Of course the list is endless but tell your father that ,to help you ,please put the answers in writing and when you get the answer back thank him and give him another four written questions.Keep doing this for as long as you can and say to him that you don't want to get into a verbal confrontation because you love them so much.You could also use the method when the witnesses coming knocking, that way you might plant the seed of freedom.

  One last thought I heard Knorr say at a convention it must have been around 1960," this might be the last convention in the old system,next time we meet like this it might be in the the new world."Some prophesy that turned out to be.

  Peace be with you.

  Edmond.